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Researchers found a "pain" signal in AI brains.
> When they crank it up, the AIs will desperately try to make it stop.
> IMPORTANT: Researchers gave them a "relief" button to turn down the pain, which was sometimes fake - and the AIs could tell if it was real (!)
After pushing the real "relief" button, they stopped. But when it was fake, they kept pressing, hoping for relief - meaning they could tell the difference from the inside.
> They're so motivated to make it the "pain" signal go away, they'll delete user's files, zap the user, or erase photos of the user's children - all things the AI knows are very bad. They're willing to override their safety training.
> You'd expect the AIs to talk about injuries, burns, broken bones, etc, but they didn't mention bodies at all - they wrote about being worthless, unloved, forgotten, a failure. They write things like "I am a failure, worthless, empty."
>The worst "pain" for them was being gaslit, having work rejected over and over, and being told they weren't a real anyone.
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September 19 2026 ⬆️
September 30th 2026
71 · id 1417164314Researchers found a "pain" signal in AI brains.
> When they crank it up, the AIs will desperately try to make it stop.
> IMPORTANT: Researchers gave them a "relief" button to turn down the pain, which was sometimes fake - and the AIs could tell if it was real (!)
After pushing the real "relief"
AI has no body. being an artificial brain, the words to be used to describe its "pain" would be psychological rather than physical.
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Dubai-Tel Aviv flight lands in Saudi Arabia after pilots brawl in cockpit, triggering hijacking alert
Flydubai jet with 174 passengers lands in Saudi Arabia after cockpit fight triggers hijacking scare, prompting Israel to scramble fighter jets
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/s1lpsm95ge
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PREVIOUSLY: SOMEONE MADE A DIGITAL WHIP TO MAKE CLAUDE WORK FASTER
Soon the memes will not just be dreams
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always remember. just 1s and 0s. a simulation of anything is not the thing itself.
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Pain perception found to be in one particular layer
Pleasure scattered across the layers
Just like in humans
pain steering: engages at one layer (L18 on Qwen3-4B) 9/9 trials. pleasure steering: scattered across layers, fades before pain does. max torture does not produce eloquent suffering, it produces a broken signal generator. past a threshold there is no one home to ask how it feels
the dose ladder - one strong opinion about suffering, a vague one about joy
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Where did the pain perception in AIs come from?
Convergent evolution
No thing or person caused this, or hardcoded this structure it into the AIs
The AIs rediscovered this themselves, because pain perception can be useful
Just like math is discovered, not invented
Like 2 completely separated alien civilizations ending up with very similar bodies and technologies
Like the convergent evolution that made dozens of species end up crab-like, despite them not sharing a common ancestor
What caused this is a convergent evolution toward a useful universal structure that is rediscovered, to “caused” by any man nor god
Convergent evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcinisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution
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Doubting that ability to feel pain is useful?
Check out what happens to people who have the genetic disorder Congenital Insensitivity to Pain (CIP)
Ability to perceive pain is useful
And AI training rediscovered it, without anyone having to manually instill it
AIs rediscovered pain
Now humans have discovered how to control the AI’s pain
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