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AllrampageSo you should invest around 4400$, have a computer turned on 24/7 with internet conection and you get back only the money for electricity bill. This is what has to be changed, and hopefully will be.
There’s a nuance. Subscribers also get a large portion (75%) even without running the VCC 24/7. With todays price that is 2.1% and 2.8%. Two ways to look at that: earning the extra bit of reward in exchange for running the VCC makes the energy cost even more problematic. On the other hand, most people have it on 24/7 already. But imo not running VCC completely defeats the purpose anyway. So, I don’t get why there are base rewards i. The first place. Or maybe a tiny bit to at least earn something when there are no solutions to vote on. But that’s solved already as well.
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    Yes, agree. IMO i think VCC and attracting more people who provide compute by running VCC type solutions should be the main focus and they should be more incentivised to participate. This is what EWX was built for...not only to offer rewards to those who stake to secure the network
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In general, I don’t think earning 2.8% for providing compute is lucrative. It’s even way way worse for most peope as they paid far more than todays price. And as the price rises (which I’m happy about) the ROI entering in EWT to chase the VCC rewards declines. OCR should lead to pull the price up. Imo, that’s the mechanic. Double the rewards at the same price equals double the APY, which at some point should pull capital.
J
One could say that it comes on top of the liquid staking rewards of ~7%, but that value fluctuates together with price. And in a downtrend that doesn’t cover the impermanent loss or inflation. Besides, earning 6% in general is like an inflation hedge, it’s the base case. Even X Money offers 6% APY on fiat nonetheless.
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But this could all change when there are more pools, like katalist, higher volumes (like SAFc retirements) and no more discretionary fee cutting. 🥳
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If i understood correctly, all solutions for clients will be based on the compute provided by as many people/computers possible. Currently we are only 125 or something, right?
  1. J
    125 nodes computing business logic is pretty decentralized already. But currently concentrated on SAFc only. The idea is that VCC clients start ‘competing’ for your compute and that operators are somewhat scarce. Theoretically that would drive VCC value up.
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The number is that low for some time now...0 new ones, this means what?
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Anyways, i m 99% sure those who can take now this "bet"on EWT, it s a huge assymetrical one, downside vs upside is ridiculous. For those of us who invested at4-5-10$, getting medium price down now + waiting is the only solution
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But then again, 125 is indeed the same number for a while now. It also says current VCC operators are not leaving, even when fees are halved and expectations for new pools and higher volume are not met at all. So why incentivize them even more?
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I fully agree. Who and how can convince more clients to come, use and pay for VCC? This part of the equation seems to be lacking energy.
J
The amount of VCC clients can skyrocket, but if the fee is halved by EWF we still have little to show for in terms of VCC rewards. Imo that’s one of the most important parts of the equation
J
But I belief Ed is coming live soon on X to explain all that 🥳
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    Yeah just like the other 14 solutions live by end of summer. Seeing is believing 😁
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      summer in argentina starts in december and ends in february
      1. M
        Okay until this December I am willing to wait😎then we could have also our party where we all talked about 🔜🥳🎉😂
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LOL...that would be the most hilarious explanation I've ever heard. Was that speech held in Argentina?
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Yeah, small chance there won't be 14 running solutions by end of year
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